Feb 12, 2013 12:00am PST
. tavis: chuck hagel is in line to take that job, will he be? >> i predict he probably will be. i don't think any of us disagree, he probably will be. far and notme this have that happen. tavis: will john brennan get through at cia? i don't want to ask if you are pleased, but how do you read the fact that finally, that is my word, there is at least a conversation about drones. >> i am with you on that, tavis. i think this country needs to debate drones and more about that program. i interviewed general stanley mcchrystal. mid-level al qaeda are being hit. they don't know why or how this happens. we, as americans, war is changing and we should know more about how it is changing, how we are employing, basically, a deaf strike -- death strike on how that works. it was a great thing coming out of the hearing. tavis: about the pope? >> i got a call just about 6:00 this morning and i turned on the morning america and we were talking about the first time in 600 years. it is remarkable that one of the things is that haute than evict. having them, it is kind of liked the old boss is still there.